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#1 Big Lou

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 03:46 PM

Angelina Love has left TNA
Alex Shelley has left TNA
Ric Flair has left TNA
Chris Sabin, before getting injured again, was going to leave TNA. When he gets healthy, he will leave TNA.
Bully Ray and Devon's contracts are about to expire, I think they should leave TNA.
Matt Morgan has left TNA.
Now I am reading that Velvet Sky will leave TNA pretty soon.


I know people shrugs at some of those names. I read other people say that losing Velvet is no big deal and that Matt Morgan is not worth it.

Here's the problem: It's easy to shrug your shoulders and say TNA won't miss these people but TNA is not a recycling factory.

When you are losing lots of good talent, the task of replacing them with equal or better talent is a difficult thing to do.


2 great examples of this: ECW and ROH


Paul Heyman kept finding talent and gave them a chance to be on TV. As a result, he kept losing talent to WCW and WWE. He would lose Rey Misterio, he would replace him with Juvi Guerrera, when he lost Juvi, he would replace him with Supercrazy. But when he lost Supercrazy, there was nuthin' out there. He would run out of good wrestlers and had to settle for below average talent like CW Anderson.

Same for ROH. They lose CM Punk, they still have Bryan Danielson. They lose Bryan, they still had Nigel McGuinness, once they lost Nigel McGuinness, they were stuck with Roderick Strong or stuck with someone not ready to carry the company.


TNA are going to find themselves in a difficult situation if they keep losing talent like this.

Young and cheap talent like Taelor Hendrix may help the budget but will fans really care?

Edited by Big Lou, 24 July 2012 - 03:48 PM.


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Posted 24 July 2012 - 03:49 PM

The indies have a ton of undiscovered talents. Plus Mexico & Japan has guys TNA can use

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 03:52 PM

The indies have a ton of undiscovered talents. Plus Mexico & Japan has guys TNA can use


I am all for undiscovered indy talent. But you have to be patient with their growth. I say no way to talent from Mexico and Japan. It's a waste of time and money to bring in international guys who have a track record of not getting over in America.

Edited by Big Lou, 24 July 2012 - 04:31 PM.


#4 JulesTNA

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 04:11 PM

TNA is trying to evolve and I just think you can't have the same talent (even though you like them) in over a particular amount of time.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 04:18 PM

Storm, Roode, Styles, and Jarrett aren't going to leave. It's no biggie.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 04:21 PM

Beyond Bully Ray the rest of the talent above are just average and come a dime a dozen in this buisness. Matt Morgan was a decent big guy but he wasn't exactly a Phenomenal talent by any means. They're plenty of big guys just like him on the Indy scene that can be just as good if not better then Morgan.

We shouldn't be worrying that TNA is losing talent but we should be excited because now since TNA has freed up the bench of average to mediocre wrestlers for new talents that are hopefully even better in the long run.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 04:30 PM

Beyond Bully Ray the rest of the talent above are just average and come a dime a dozen in this buisness. Matt Morgan was a decent big guy but he wasn't exactly a Phenomenal talent by any means. They're plenty of big guys just like him on the Indy scene that can be just as good if not better then Morgan.

We shouldn't be worrying that TNA is losing talent but we should be excited because now since TNA has freed up the bench of average to mediocre wrestlers for new talents that are hopefully even better in the long run.



My other concern would be the stigma it gives TNA when so many people are leaving in just the past five months.

Edited by Big Lou, 24 July 2012 - 05:52 PM.


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Posted 24 July 2012 - 05:27 PM

Angelina Love has left TNA
Alex Shelley has left TNA
Ric Flair has left TNA
Chris Sabin, before getting injured again, was going to leave TNA. When he gets healthy, he will leave TNA.
Bully Ray and Devon's contracts are about to expire, I think they should leave TNA.
Matt Morgan has left TNA.
Now I am reading that Velvet Sky will leave TNA pretty soon.


I know people shrugs at some of those names. I read other people say that losing Velvet is no big deal and that Matt Morgan is not worth it.

Here's the problem: It's easy to shrug your shoulders and say TNA won't miss these people but TNA is not a recycling factory.

When you are losing lots of good talent, the task of replacing them with equal or better talent is a difficult thing to do.


2 great examples of this: ECW and ROH


Paul Heyman kept finding talent and gave them a chance to be on TV. As a result, he kept losing talent to WCW and WWE. He would lose Rey Misterio, he would replace him with Juvi Guerrera, when he lost Juvi, he would replace him with Supercrazy. But when he lost Supercrazy, there was nuthin' out there. He would run out of good wrestlers and had to settle for below average talent like CW Anderson.

Same for ROH. They lose CM Punk, they still have Bryan Danielson. They lose Bryan, they still had Nigel McGuinness, once they lost Nigel McGuinness, they were stuck with Roderick Strong or stuck with someone not ready to carry the company.


TNA are going to find themselves in a difficult situation if they keep losing talent like this.

Young and cheap talent like Taelor Hendrix may help the budget but will fans really care?


Sabin leaving was a completely unsubstantiated rumor, as is Velvet leaving at this point.

Shelley leaving was a shame. Then again, it was also said he was heading for WWE and he hasn't gone there yet, he may end up back with TNA later this year for all we know.

Bully Ray leaving would make no sense for him, unless Vince McMahon just wants to throw a lot of money at him for whatever reason. That is also an unsubstantiated rumor. If true, it would be a loss for TNA.

So out of everyone listed, only one guy is a legitimate loss for TNA who has actually left. That guy (Shelley) was not a main eventer, like the guys who were signed away from ECW and ROH. Those companies were losing their world champions. That, of course, is going to hurt. TNA are doing just fine right now.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 05:45 PM

Sabin leaving was a completely unsubstantiated rumor, as is Velvet leaving at this point.

Shelley leaving was a shame. Then again, it was also said he was heading for WWE and he hasn't gone there yet, he may end up back with TNA later this year for all we know.

Bully Ray leaving would make no sense for him, unless Vince McMahon just wants to throw a lot of money at him for whatever reason. That is also an unsubstantiated rumor. If true, it would be a loss for TNA.

So out of everyone listed, only one guy is a legitimate loss for TNA who has actually left. That guy (Shelley) was not a main eventer, like the guys who were signed away from ECW and ROH. Those companies were losing their world champions. That, of course, is going to hurt. TNA are doing just fine right now.


None of us thought the Shelley rumor was true. Until he left and it turned out to be true.

To be honest, I do believe these rumors.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 05:57 PM

Name one person on that list that is a great loss to TNA. Just one.

And no, Bully Ray and Devon don't count because they're on that list purely because you think they should leave, but there's no indication of either of them leaving (though I could see Devon retiring and becoming an agent).


Angelina Love: not that great in the ring and couldn't take
Alex Shelley: talent, but never had a major role in TNA other than being there to fill the tag roster
Ric Flair: legend, but it's not like TNA needed him, he just completed Hogan (which is doing fine on his own now anyway, without Flair)
Chris Sabin: see Shelley (and he's by far the most injury-prone wrestler I know (and no, I did not forget about Nash))
Matt Morgan: wasn't the best of talkers but a decent wrestler, but he was so generic that I barely noticed he was in TNA to begin with
Velvet Sky: the biggest loss with her possibly leaving is the handful of people that like to think of wrestling as soft porn

Edited by Stung, 24 July 2012 - 06:01 PM.


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Posted 24 July 2012 - 05:59 PM

Name one person on that list that is a great loss to TNA. Just one.

And no, Bully Ray and Devon don't count because they're on that list purely because you think they should leave, but there's no indication of either of them leaving (though I could see Devon retiring and becoming an agent).

Alex Shelley. Talented guy never got a real chance.

Edited by Big Lou, 24 July 2012 - 06:00 PM.


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Posted 24 July 2012 - 06:06 PM

Alex Shelley. Talented guy never got a real chance.


It did kind of look like they were going to give him a chance in the X Division, but it kind of halted, maybe the higher-ups didn't like what he did with the chance they gave him? I don't know.

Bit yes, from that list, Shelley could be considered the biggest loss. But again, his role in TNA has always been pretty minor. It's like TNA is losing Jef Hardy or Bobby Roode.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 06:17 PM

Angelina Love has left TNA
Alex Shelley has left TNA
Ric Flair has left TNA
Chris Sabin, before getting injured again, was going to leave TNA. When he gets healthy, he will leave TNA.
Bully Ray and Devon's contracts are about to expire, I think they should leave TNA.
Matt Morgan has left TNA.
Now I am reading that Velvet Sky will leave TNA pretty soon.


Now out of that whole list there are only two people that TNA NEED. Velvet is very marketable, and Bully Ray is being used frequently. The rest, as of now, are irelevant and hasn't even been in a meaningful storyline in some time. Hendrix has potential. 2009 Madison Rayne turned into the Madison we have now, so I say she has potential. Silva, nope.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 10:15 PM

Now out of that whole list there are only two people that TNA NEED. Velvet is very marketable, and Bully Ray is being used frequently. The rest, as of now, are irelevant and hasn't even been in a meaningful storyline in some time. Hendrix has potential. 2009 Madison Rayne turned into the Madison we have now, so I say she has potential. Silva, nope.


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Posted 24 July 2012 - 10:18 PM

Now out of that whole list there are only two people that TNA NEED. Velvet is very marketable, and Bully Ray is being used frequently. The rest, as of now, are irelevant and hasn't even been in a meaningful storyline in some time. Hendrix has potential. 2009 Madison Rayne turned into the Madison we have now, so I say she has potential. Silva, nope.


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Posted 24 July 2012 - 11:20 PM

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TNA is losing talent fast put it seems they they are replacing it just as fast

Ric Flair does not hurt anything.


Angelina Love out Taeler Hendrix in
If Velvet is out MS Tessmacher can do anything she can
Alex Shelley out Kenny King in

Silva in

Anthony Nese out

Matt Morgan out they still have Abyss for there big man


Edited by 123321, 24 July 2012 - 11:35 PM.


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Posted 25 July 2012 - 12:40 AM

None of us thought the Shelley rumor was true. Until he left and it turned out to be true.

To be honest, I do believe these rumors.


The rumor was Shelley was going to WWE. The report was he asked for his release, not that "it's rumored he will be leaving soon because his contract is coming up!" like all the rumors out today.

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 01:41 AM

Alex Silva's gonna be a star someday.


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Posted 25 July 2012 - 03:03 AM

Comparing ECW & ROH to TNA, LMFAO. Ever wondered why TNA maintains their top talent, while ROH always loses out, as well as ECW when they were around?

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 03:24 AM

Angelina Love has left TNA
Alex Shelley has left TNA
Ric Flair has left TNA
Chris Sabin, before getting injured again, was going to leave TNA. When he gets healthy, he will leave TNA.
Bully Ray and Devon's contracts are about to expire, I think they should leave TNA.
Matt Morgan has left TNA.
Now I am reading that Velvet Sky will leave TNA


Let's ignore the fact that everyone last year said TNA's roster was over inflated, but let's look at what TNA could be losing.

Angelina Love hasn't been important since her return

Alex Shelley and Chris Sabin are a big loss but TNA had let the tag division die. Still great talents.

Ric Flair not worth the trouble. He's a legend but hasn't done much for ratings. I think he enhanced the talent (Aj's mic skills) early on but became too much of a nuisance toward the end.

Bully Ray cant do without him. Best heel in the biz

Devon he's over fans love him. Even more important to the rest of the roster

Matt Morgan lot of potential there but he's kinda at a point in his career where it could go up or down. He's had a lot of pushes but just isn't quite there

Velvet Sky Terrible wrestler but she is way over and sells merch. They need to keep her.

Now replace these losses with additions of:
Chavo
Anderson
Hardy
Rvd
Aries

Not saying all of the above people are def gone and not saying the replacements are my favorites. Also look at what removing the focus on people like Matt Morgan and Ric Flair does for people like Bobby Roode.
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