Fenris, on 19 February 2012 - 12:11 AM, said:
The ratings largely held the entire show, fluctuating very little.
Fenris, on 18 February 2012 - 08:04 PM, said:
After BFG 2.1 million or whatever it was tuned in to see James Storm win the world title. There were apparently things in the rest of the show that caused them to tune back out.
Fenris, on 19 February 2012 - 12:11 AM, said:
Must stop laughing.... Okay getting it together.... The opening segment wasn't even the highest rated segment for starters. Secondly the ratings on that Impact fluctuated by about 30,000 viewers so no, "those same people" didn't all tune out.
I wasn't just talking about that particular impact taping. There were a few Hogan/Sting segments that popped 1.4 quarter hour ratings, then after they were done it went back down to 1.2. They watch for one reason and one reason only, TNA will never grow catering to these people.
Fenris, on 19 February 2012 - 12:11 AM, said:
Yeah, that's "ALL" they bring, viewers. Who needs that? Seriously, THINK before you speak.
They don't bring "viewers" they bring people who watch and turn off, watch and turn off, watch and turn off. The audience the has-beens bring in are as much "fans" as all the cast members in the impact zone. They don't really care about TNA and want it to grow, all they care about is seeing their childhood hero Hogan come out and do the same shit every week and take a picture or two.
Fenris, on 19 February 2012 - 12:11 AM, said:
As opposed to the smarks, the group you want TNA to cater to who stream the PPV's and download their DVD's.... Yeah....
Nope, don't want them to cater to smarks. I don't want them to cater to any specific type of viewer. Add elements that cater to everybody, not just casual fans and not just smarks. It's sort of what they've done all a long before 2010 when Hogan/Bischoff signed but they always had all the old guys. They have a chance to create a awesome hybrid of everything and have a really unique product that could be really, really good.
Fenris, on 19 February 2012 - 12:11 AM, said:
FACT: Every SUCCESSFUL promotion and business for that matter has succeeded via tailoring their product to the widest spectrum of people and the average person.
FACT: No promotion that has catered to the whims of the smarks, the people to get your opinions from has ever had legitimate success.
FICTION: Putting on a product that caters to the whims of the smarks is a successful business plan. It isn't.
The reality is a promotion can't win WITHOUT casual fans. That is an indisputable fact with three decades of evidence behind it. You HAVE TO do things to get them interested and you HAVE TO figure out where your product needs to be for those casual fans to stay tuned in and interested. Here's a hint: Those huge crowds at WWE PPV's? It isn't the IWC. It's... The casual fan who is into their product as well as their children enjoying the product. It wasn't the IWC selling out stadiums in any of Wrestlings boom period, setting record ratings nor record buyrates in either major boom. It was casual fans.
FACT: No promotion that has catered to the whims of the smarks, the people to get your opinions from has ever had legitimate success.
FICTION: Putting on a product that caters to the whims of the smarks is a successful business plan. It isn't.
The reality is a promotion can't win WITHOUT casual fans. That is an indisputable fact with three decades of evidence behind it. You HAVE TO do things to get them interested and you HAVE TO figure out where your product needs to be for those casual fans to stay tuned in and interested. Here's a hint: Those huge crowds at WWE PPV's? It isn't the IWC. It's... The casual fan who is into their product as well as their children enjoying the product. It wasn't the IWC selling out stadiums in any of Wrestlings boom period, setting record ratings nor record buyrates in either major boom. It was casual fans.
FACT: I wasn't talking about casual viewers. Casual viewers make up pretty much all of WWE's audience, and they've been getting the same ratings since 2008. They're pretty loyal no matter what.
Fenris, on 19 February 2012 - 12:11 AM, said:
In modern times there are about 1 and a half million hardcore fans, 10% of being the internet smark and 4 million casual fans TNA is competing with the WWE for. TNA is getting them to tune in, they're not getting them to stay. Catering to the internet won't win over many of those 4 million. It's not. Going. To. Happen. Deal with.
I don't remember posting anything that would disagree with this, so okay...
Fenris, on 19 February 2012 - 12:11 AM, said:
It's too bad we don't have a time machine, you could go back to the early 1900's and let those fans know because so far nobody has gotten your memo that as a "nostalgia fan" they are not to become interested in any new gimmicks or characters. So far 100 years worth of wrestling fan hasn't yet caught onto your secret.
They can, but haven't. For TNA at least.















